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Diary of an Angry Lesbian (Part 3)

Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:30 AM EST
gay, phone, culture, lesbian, hate, crimes, clubs, drama, texting, homosexuals
By littlemuscle
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Addressing some stereotypes:

1. Not every homosexual knows every homosexual...we know a lot but not everyone of them.

2. Just because we exchange numbers does not mean we are going to sleep together

3. Not all Lesbians drink all night party, party all night and are dramatic (well, not all)

4. We are not forming a secret army to take over the world

Its 10:31 on a Sunday night, my phone sounds. I raise up and look at the message, "Are you ladies coming to the club tonight?", I text back, "No, not tonight." We don't go to the club often, but that seems to have only increased people's intrigue with us. It is Monday night, I have to work tomorrow and I look over at the lovely lady in my arms. She isn't feeling, well, she has been fighting what we think is the flu for a couple days. I kiss her on the forehead to feel her temperature and yet not disturb her much either. She pulls me closer, "Who was that?". I answer, "It was Candace, wanting to know if we were coming out tonight." My lady, takes a deep relaxing breath, "Oh," and back to sleep she goes.

Stereotypes of homosexual couples have flown through society like wild flowers. Do we occasionally go to clubs? Yes, some more than others and some not at all. So do heterosexuals. One of the stereotypes of Lesbians is that we party all the time, drink until late night early morning and we are dramatic. Well, I must say I have seen more than my share of lesbians that can drink anyone under the table, I however am, not one of them and I am not alone. There are plenty of us out there that one shot is enough and we are good for the night, not too much more and we are going to be seeing the porcelain god. (By the way, for those of you that don't have a sense of humor, we are not literally praying to the toilet, it is just an expression for kneeling down in front of the toilet to say hello again to something you ate earlier, so please, do not say that this is proof that lesbians are sacrilegious and worshiping idols).

Dramatic, yes we can be. Lets face it get a group of women in a room and either you are in for the best time of your life or a dramatic event. Being a lesbian has nothing to do with that, being a woman does. Yet, here I was at 10:30 at night getting a text message from another woman, who by the way is a lesbian too, and my girlfriend did not get all beside herself over it despite the rumors of how we are said to behave. We can socialize with other women without there being drama, well, as much as any heterosexual woman can.

Not every gay person knows each other, though I can see where this stereotype derives from. The text message I got, was from a girl that I have already identified as Candace. I have never actually met Candace. She knows who I am, she could probably spot me out in a crowd. But you see, one thing that I have noticed in the homosexual community is networking is important, for one big reason...support and really survival. Candace and I have mutual friends, and as a result some how our numbers were exchanged.

Our numbers were not exchanged for any reason other than for support in the event that we need it, i.e. public reticule for who we are and needing someone to talk to, unemployment suddenly because of being gay and needing a gay friendly work place to work, etc. Perhaps if a heterosexual observed how easily we exchange number they would think that we are doing so perhaps with sexual motives in mind, that simply is not true. I think even thinking so is childish but I try to understand that in a heterosexuals lifestyle/culture if a man and a woman meet and exchange numbers fairly quickly rumors certainly start about the two. Such an exchange happens all the time in the homosexual culture but for reasons that some don't understand.

We are not forming a secret underground army to take over the heterosexual world and corrupt it. We may be guilty of coming together to give support in a world that is attacking us however, we are trying to survive without literally getting killed. This world really is a scary place if you are a homosexual. An outcast in most places you go, it is nice to know there are people out there that you can just text or call up and not feel like a disease, even if you have never seen their face or met them...all of you here on Newsvine should understand that, I am sure you have friends on here that you consider real friends, yet you have never met. People on here that support something you do, and when you see them commenting on the same seed as you. you feel not so alone, the same thing in the gay community. Here is another example of when it is important, another lesbian who I just barely met, text me about a week ago, she really likes this girl and wanted to do something special for her to show her, she was asking me for advice. Odd? Perhaps to a heterosexual, heterosexuals can pretty much ask anyone for love advice without someone looking at them like they have lobsters coming out of their ears, we however, cannot.

One thing is for sure, living the life of a homosexual there are things you learn not to take for granted, friends tops that list. Finding people to talk to, to understand you, to go to when you need relationship advice or even to call because four straight men are shouting that you just haven't been with the right man and you are scared. Having someone to pick up the phone and get help. I was in a situation once...my "best friend" came and picked me up. I had just told her a few days earlier that I was gay. She seemed cool with it. I got in the car and we met this other girl out. They started asking me a lot of curiosity questions, some pretty childish ones that I expected. Eventually they said, they just needed to get me drunk and get the other girls brother over there to F%^k me. Sorry for the language but you have to understand the seriousness of the situation. Now, here I was without a car. I was just out, and had not developed a lot of friends in the gay community, I just hadn't been part of it. But I knew one person, the person that I had fallen in love with. I text her what was going on. She was a good half hour away, but only ten minutes passed and I received a text from her that said go outside, there is a blue Honda Accord with a Georgia Bulldog decal on it, they are there to get you out of there. I did...I went outside and there was the car, there were three lesbians that I had never met in the car, I got in and they took me home. They could have gone in and started a fight, they could have gone in and caused a scene, but the goal was simply, not let another lesbian be put in a bad place, a place where she was uncomfortable.

Are we just like everyone else? Yes, mostly. There is a culture that I think heterosexuals misinterpret and a culture that has developed only due to the persecution that we have faced and our attempt to make others feel more comfortable. That culture however is nothing like homophobic people make it out to be. .

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littlemuscle

Once again I have attempted to write something to help educate people that their perception of the homosexual community may be a little misguided. In this series I am trying to use real every day events to expose the misguided stereotypes, open the door to the day to day life of a homosexuals so that others who don't have the day to day interaction can better understand we are not monsters.

  • 4 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:34 AM EST
belove48

Hi LM, another great article...

One of the stereotypes of Lesbians is that we party all the time, drink until late night early morning and we are dramatic.

It doesn't help when you have a show like "The Real L Word"

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:56 AM EST
littlemuscle

True. Sure there are members of the homosexual community that party, but there are also heterosexuals that do that, and like not all heterosexuals behave like those on the "Real World" not all lesbians behave like those on "The Real L Word."

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#2.1 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:13 AM EST
pjw-708550

Hi! lm, another really well done article. (Hope your true love is feeling better!) I'm going to be telling my story at my church (Unitarian Universalist) in a couple of weeks and I must admit to a bit of trepidation about doing it. My friends all know that I am a lesbian, but many in the church do not. However, I feel it is important to tell my story so people can begin to truly understand that we in the gay community are just like everyone else with the exception of the fact that we love people of our own sex. Thanks as ever. The humor in this was great. Like you, one drink and I'm pretty much done with that for an evening. :)

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#2.2 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:45 AM EST
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margaret-1186258

Littlemuscle--How nice to meet you (I missed pts 1&2). I have questions! I'm not homosexual (sidenote: was going to use the word 'gay' but noticed you didn't; is it passe? or become offensive when I wasn't looking?) Please understand, none of what I ask is meant to offend or challenge. It's just that I've lived enough years and the world has changed around me, and I'm trying to sort through life's seeming contradictions. (Y'ever notice, the Bible contains seeming contradictions as well?!)

No, no, I'm not a raving conservative, have no opinion of righteousness of the lifestyle beyond my genius son's logical view. . . it's not natural, because it's not self-propagating. I guess that makes sense on an anthropolocial level. . . sort of. But no reason to criticize on that score alone; many heteros can't propagate either, so what the heck!

Okay, the questions. For years, I've read that a person is born gay (it's a shorter word!); that it is definitively nature, not nurture, but then. . . .

Why, then, does it seem that men will talk about "feeling different" from an early age, but women tend to reveal that "I discovered my homosexuality sometime during my 3rd year of college/after 15 years of marriage and raising three kids/one day at age 37, I met a woman with whom I just connected. . . and realized what had been missing all my life. So, Do women really spend years not knowing they're gay?

Also, I've read several articles (well, three) about young boys, having been kidnapped and held by a pedophile. Then, years later, after escaping or being rescued, continuing to live the homosexual life. Now, do you believe that the pedophile was lucky in picking a gay victim? Or does the victim become gay through training?

Then there's this. Lately, there's been a lot of news about bullying of gay teens (reprehensible, I totally agree!). A few gay activitists, in speaking out to decry the "outing" of a person before he/she is ready to reveal. Now, I fully support the individual's right to privacy (personally I would like people on both sides of the fence to step back into the closet, or at least the bedroom); how do the same activists defend their actions when, in a publication (if I remember correctly, was called OUT), the standard was to out actors, politicians, or other high profile people without their permission, and contrary to their wishes?

I laud your stable relationship with your SO. So you might be able to enlighten me to about what is, for me, a disturbing trend/practice(?). What's with men's room hook-ups? Is this looking for love, or looking for cheap sex? (Admittedly, I'm years past the cheap sex stage).

And gay parades. Again, I've no more objection to a gay pride parade than a group of bagpipers in kilts (and I do love bagpipe music!). But, why the in-your-face sexual exhibition? Can't gays (I guess I might be targeting men only; I don't see this so much with women) be proud without showing off the junk and pierced nipples? I don't get this; I get gay pride; I don't get the exhibitionism. Somehow, I just don't see a hetero pride parade flaunting (although, now I think of it, have you noticed today's dance routines?? Place the dancers horizontally and the birthrate would skyrocket!!)

Anyway, these are just a few curious questions; if they offend don't answer, it's all right. I'm just trying to get a handle on the "group dynamic." I have one more remeniscent(?) I'd like some input on but will take a bit, so will save for another time--if you don't mind these questions, you might be able to enlighten me about an event when I was a young mother. . .

    Reply#5 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:30 AM EST
    Laochra

    "Why, then, does it seem that men will talk about "feeling different" from an early age, but women tend to reveal that "I discovered my homosexuality sometime during my 3rd year of college/after 15 years of marriage and raising three kids/one day at age 37, I met a woman with whom I just connected. . . and realized what had been missing all my life. So, Do women really spend years not knowing they're gay?"

    Oh, I can answer this one! Short story is we do not live in a world where homosexuality is universally liked or in some places even acknowledged. I myself have known I was gay since I was fourteen/fifteen, puberty basically. However I tried not to be. I went out with men, hated every moment of it, and treated them very badly as a result of my bad judgment. I came to a stage where it was literally either be myself, or live my life hating everything about myself. I came to terms with my sexuality and am the happiest I’ve ever been as a result.

    I would not also say it is just women. A good few of my friends I had growing up turned out to be gay also, mostly guys, and not all were out and proud from the get go. Several did the exact same thing as I, knowing they were gay but wanting to be normal perused heterosexual relationships and hating it. My answer in a nut shell - it isn’t easy and sometimes we lose track of who we are. But we get there in the end.

    "What's with men's room hook-ups? Is this looking for love, or looking for cheap sex? (Admittedly, I'm years past the cheap sex stage"

    Ha, that's not a gay thing love, that is a human being thing! Go into any club in any city, and you're going to find bathroom hookups. Gay clubs just get a bit more publicity about it.

    "And gay parades. Again, I've no more objection to a gay pride parade than a group of bagpipers in kilts (and I do love bagpipe music!). But, why the in-your-face sexual exhibition?"

    Have you been to a pride parade may I ask? I am not asking that in a snotty way, just in a curious way. From my own experiences at them, yes there are a few who take it to the extreme but by and large it's more or less child friendly and no different than Mardi Gras (Your hetero parade which is more flamboyant and provocative than Gay pride can ever be in my opinion)or Halloween!

    It's the one day of the year we can go out and go mad and some (myself included Ill admit) have gone a little mad, but we draw back and by and large its a positive and fun day and plenty of people bring their kids and families along without undue worry. Don’t let a few bad seeds poison your perception of what is otherwise a great day.

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    #5.1 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:58 AM EST
    pjw-708550

    Well said, Laochra!

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    #5.2 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:08 AM EST
    littlemuscle

    No, offense. I don't mind questions and encourage them. That is the reason for this series to educate people who don't understand.

    First, the word "gay" I personally do not find offensive, I usually use homosexual and gay inter-changeable except for the fact that often when I write if I just use the word "gay" without a doubt I will have someone say, "I don't have a problem with happy people." I even had someone suggest that homosexuals purposely "Kidnapped" the word "gay" meaning happy to help us transform people to the lifestyle suggesting they will be happy....that is absurd. So, I have been using homosexual more than gay, but I do use both. The word "fag" I find offensive as I have found most homosexuals do.

    Born or Choice? I think there are cases where both are true. If a woman is a victim of repeated rapes, I have found is found a lot in the lesbian community. I won't argue that there was not some kind of trauma there that caused her to no longer be able to feel comfortable with a man. Now that is not always the case. Personally, I have been a victim of repeated rapes at a young age, but yet I can also remember as a child prior to that dreaming about (no sexually) but in a flirtatious way, a girl having a romantic liking for me and not a boy. I would dream that some girl had a crush on me, I remember waking up feeling all giddy, and then suddenly feeling terrible about it like something was wrong with me. For me I was told I needed to find a man to take care of me, the traditional view of life. As I got older I learned that, you know what I can take care of myself, I don't need a man. Once you feel that liberation I think the world changes for you if you already had those feelings inside of you. I also know that when I told my mother the first time, I told her that I had fallen in love with someone and it just happened. That wasn't true, I have know that I was different long before, but I wanted to make this easier for her. In hindsight I realized that was the wrong angle to take so I went back and told her the truth about the fact that I had feelings since I was a small child. Some women I think are afraid to admit that they have been this way since birth, it is easier to admit there was just someone that came along that made you feel loved.

    The pedophile question. I mentioned earlier I was rapped as a child, by a man, so I can't speak from a male perspective but for me I think that discounts the idea of continuing on course of what someone went through.

    As far as outing someone without the permission, I would like some references specifically on this. There are high powered people that are living in the closet. People that are respected, admired and show that we do contribute to this community. The wanting people to stand up and be proud of who they are derives from that. For example the pastor that came out a couple weeks ago. He lead his congregation for 25 years, was loved and admired. Shows a direct counter to many of the stereotypes that are out there regarding homosexuals. No one, that I am exposed to or have read about are trying to expose someone without their permission. Heterosexuals have tried to do this repeatedly, but I do not know of a homosexual doing this and would be very interested in reading more if you have the articles available. If it has happened I assure you that is not the overall culture or way with the community just as I am sure it is not the overall culture of the Christian community to stand outside of a funeral thanking God for dead solders like Westboro church has done.

    Men hook ups, I think I need you to define this more. Do you mean hooks up as in you walk in and see two men going at it or do you men two men meet in the locker room and go out. I need a little more clarifications, and even then remember my response would be that of a lesbian, I don't frequent the men's locker room.

    Not all gay pride parades are like this, just like no all heterosexual parades feature the KKK. We had a gay parade here in my area which featured drag queens who had won crowns and that was about the extent of it. There were floats remembering those who had passed away due to suicide, things of that nature. Just like with photos of the war we see photos of children having lost a leg due to bombs, but we don't see photos of schools being built. I have attended gay pride events and not seen the things that the next day have been featured in the paper. I am sure it was actually a photo taken at the event. Give me a camera and let me go to a bar on any night, that is primarily heterosexual, and I promise you I can spin it the exact same way.

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    #5.3 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:17 AM EST
    Shroggle

    margaret,

    I can't answer for the women, but I'll do what I can for the questions that seem to be more concerned with gay men (being a gay man, with a SO of 7 years).

    Why, then, does it seem that men will talk about "feeling different" from an early age

    Not all men do, especially those of us from older generations. Many of us men, in our late 30's, 40's, 50's etc being from a different time and place, each handled it differently. I know I married (when I was 30), and was married for some years, before coming out of the closet and getting a divorce. I looked back over my life, and saw many many clues that should have alerted me years before getting married, but I ignored/sublimated them. The pressures of family, friends, church, society, and military (I'm retired navy) helped me to ignore those clues, and I got married and did what was "expected" of me. I also regret what I put my now ex-wife through by not having come to that realization earlier. So, while the younger folk might be more accepting, and come out of the closet earlier now, not all of us did or do, nor even recognized it at the time.

    As far as pedophile/gay thing:

    Not being a trained psychotherapist, I can only offer an opinion. I personally think those who were abused, and "became" gay later on are acting out psychologically, and could use therapy. In the same way that women (or men) who are abused, seem to get into abusive relationships over and over again, I think those abused by pedophiles do the same (for reasons I can't fathom). Again, an opinion, only.

    As goes to "outing" someone from the militant gays:

    I personally think they are reprehensible for wanting to out someone. Coming out is a very distinct and personal thing for each person. Some come out to everyone, and some pick and choose who they want to come out to, and some don't let others know. Many who do out themselves lose freinds and family over it, so to me, outing someone else is never a good idea, but should be their choice, and their's alone on whom to tell.

    Men's room hook-ups

    For those that do them, could be any of a number of reasons. Some do it for quick, cheap sex. Some think of it as a fetish. Some, just like heterosexual couples, like the thrill of public sex, and the chance of getting caught, to spice up their sex lives. To me, men's room hook ups are no different from the hook ups that older generations did in their cars up on the lover's lane. One thing about two men doing it in a public bathroom, it's easier than a man and woman getting into a men's or woman's bathroom, so it's seen and portrayed more often.

    Gay pride parades

    I've been to 3 now. 2 in Hawaii, and one here in St. Louis. None were as you described. The most "flamboyantly" dressed were the members of the thespian society, who dressed in drag (which they do for their shows anyway). I will say the one here in St. Louis had more Alderman, the Fire department, the Police department, and all most as many church groups as bonifide gay groups in the parade (ie the gay soccer team, the bikers, the classic car enthusists, the gay men's chorus, etc). Unfortunately, the media (and others who talk about the parades), tend to focus only the "wilder" members of the community, rather than the more mainstream (and there are alot more mainstream members of the gay community than wilder ones).

    Just my two cents from my perspective.

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    #5.4 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:34 AM EST
    bonos_rama

    I'm heterosexual, and I want to know about the bathroom hookups and the sexual exhibitionism at the parades. Don't people realize they make us look bad? I'm talking about all the straight people screwing in bathrooms in clubs (not to mention in cars in parking lots, coat room closets, etc.) and have you ever been to a Mardi Gras parade? Straight sexuality shoved in your face everywhere you go!

    Can you help me to understand it, Margaret? Because as I stated, I'm straight and still can't figure it out.

    :)

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    #5.5 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:36 AM EST
    littlemuscle

    Welcome, Bonos...you are right, "the mile high club" comes to mind. Now I know this has not specific gender requirements, it is a well known term. Why? Heterosexual or homosexual. It is not just limited to homosexual lifestyle.

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    #5.6 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:40 AM EST
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    Laochra

    "I had just told her a few days earlier that I was gay. She seemed cool with it. I got in the car and we met this other girl out. They started asking me a lot of curiosity questions, some pretty childish ones that I expected. Eventually they said, they just needed to get me drunk and get the other girls brother over there to F%^k me"

    Strange old world how things happen regardless of what continent you live on. That happened to me pretty much word for word.

    "Just because we exchange numbers does not mean we are going to sleep together"

    God yes! This is probably the one that irritates me the most. Most of my other gay friends are men who I grew up with who also happened to be homosexual and as such tend to attract a rather large following of girls who want to be their bff's. Not that I mind, they are more or less nice girls, but as soon as you get talking to them friendly, the deer in headlights phenomenom occurs. Just because I am gay does not mean I fancy every woman!

    "3. Not all Lesbians drink all night party, party all night and are dramatic (well, not all)"

    ....Uh.....I may have let the side down on that one. But I figure I am young, free and single and I am just going to do what every other person in the universe does. Have fun!

    "4. We are not forming a secret army to take over the world"

    Right....Of course we arent **shifty eyes** lol.

    Great article though LM, it's pretty amazing how these kind of things resonate across the world no matter what your culture is or were you're from. Particularly the "You jusst haven't met the right man yet! You're just sick of men, arent you?" school of logic. Ugh.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#7 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:38 AM EST
    pjw-708550

    Laochra, we aren't supposed to be telling about the secret army, then it won't be secret anymore!! :)

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    #7.1 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:05 AM EST
    littlemuscle

    Shhhhhh...ladies, we will lose our power here if we say too much! (Lol) We have not received the secret light in the sky giving us our sign to reveal ourselves.

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    #7.2 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:19 AM EST
    littlemuscle

    Laochra, oh I have drank a few under the table a time or two, but I must say I have grown out of it....well, on most nights. Realizing we have this reputation I also may have a time or two, asked the bartender to just bring me a shot of cranberry juice when the guys were ordering the lesbian what they thought were "red headed sluts", I would toast them down the shot with them (they were drinking the real thing, not me). The more drunk I got and the more I didn't get drunk they wanted to buy more and more just to see how much I could drink...silly boys. so in that case, I didn't out drink them, I just out smarted them.

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    #7.3 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:23 AM EST
    my-2-cents

    Laochra, we aren't supposed to be telling about the secret army, then it won't be secret anymore!! :)

    darn, cover blown!! ;)

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    #7.4 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:39 AM EST
    Laochra

    Launch the Gay Ray before they mount a defense!!!!

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    #7.5 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:41 AM EST
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    It's me, Margaret. . . . Thanks, great answers. When I mentioned rest-room hook-ups, I guess I was using news stories as a main source of information (see, that's what happens with us heteroes; all we really know is media hype!); y'know the George Michael type of thing. But your responses regarding hook-ups in the hetero world. . . wow! I was dating during the 70s and 80s and never saw any of what you folks have told me about; I guess we weren't nearly as liberated as we thought we were--so much for being pioneers.

    Gay pride parades; you're right again, of course. I've never attended one (don't live anywhere near a big city, or even a small city for that matter) so what I've seen, I've seen on the news. . .and, in all honesty, I'm well aware that the press today skews every news story for the most salacious view they can. So it's nice to have these things cleared up; to know that gays are not all weirdo's flashing everyone every chance they get!?

    Regarding outing someone w/o permission, like I mentioned it was an activist magazine from the 80s, I think named OUT; maybe Wikipedia has an article on it? I'm afraid, as I get older, I have to jettison some memories to make room for others--like what I'm learning here (what will I get rid of now??)

    And all your imputs regarding nature vs nurture make total sense, don't know why some of this didn't occur to me by myself. You've all been most helpful. May I share a story my youth? I was a young mother (2 kids by age 20), divorced, living in small apartment in small city. Upstairs lived a gay couple (Warren & Steve); they'd been together for 10+ years. Keep in mind, this is before gay liberation(?) and such couples usually kept a low profile. We weren't friendly (but not unfriendly), just neighborly; y'know, the nod passing in the hall, occasionally.

    Anyway, I was (still am) a poor woman just trying to get by; daughter 5, son 3; 3-room apartment; small B/W television. So, it's spring, Winnie the Pooh is coming on television (a movie) in a couple of days. Apparently, one of the kids must have told Steve how excited they were; they were going to get to stay up late to watch their beloved Pooh Bear. Day before the movie, soft knock on door; it's Steve. He wanted to invited my kids to watch the show on his big screen, color TV. I remember, he was very shy about asking, almost reticent in approaching me, then invited me up to have a cup of tea that evening (to show that his home was respectable for little kids? perhaps).

    I went, we had a lovely visit. I did note a couple of odd things; his living room was filled with pictures of the Virgin Mary & Child--some looked quite valuable, all were beautiful (as my daughter was quick to tell me about later, she was WAY impressed!); that and the fact that he handled a teapot with more grace than I could. I gave permission, the kids went up next day, had a tea party and view of Pooh in color and had the time of their young lives. I can't say we became bosom buddies, all of us worked long hours, but we did become good neighbors (instead of the anonymous), and the kids were allowed to visit on any invitation.

    This was my first exposure to gay people. It caused the realization that whatever my personal objection/discomfort with the life might be (non-self-propogating, etc), it would not impact my feelings about the individuals/couples. Most of us want love, companionship, commitment; and where we find it is the personal journey of each of us. I've since had many acquaintances (y'know the people you meet through a relative or friend and so have limited contact with, people you can't accost with personal questions like those posed here).

    I've only met one I didn't like--and that was the guy who stole Warren from Steve; Steve was broken-hearted and Warren ended committing suicide. So George was never a favorite person to me (the only time I've ever used the term "fag;" forgive me, I was very hurt by Steve's double pain.

    Sidenote--couple of years later, a new TV show (for adults) came out HOT L Baltimore, in which lived an assortment of odd people (including a gay man and a mentally retarded man); my daughter informed me she was old enough (at 7 1/2) to watch it because she "would never make fun of those people." She turned out to be an exceptional adult (as is her brother!)

    Anyway, that's all my story; I thank you all for your valuable input and insight. I appreciate that you took the time to answer and that you were kind enough to acknowledge the sincerity of my questions. God bless all! (Is it okay these days to say that??)

      Reply#8 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:14 PM EST
      Laochra

      "God bless all! (Is it okay these days to say that??)"

      Of course it's okay to say! :) And lovely story about the guys living up from you, that's the kind of experience most people need I think, to see we live no different than any straight people do.

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      #8.1 - Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:41 AM EST
      littlemuscle

      Yes, thank you for sharing. That is the point of this series, to kind of open up the doors of my home, the world that is me and personal experiences so people can better understand the lifestyle. There is so many misconceptions out there.

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      #8.2 - Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:56 AM EST
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      james-2380631

      almost missed it. keep up the good work!

      • 2 votes
      Reply#9 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:34 PM EST
      POaksitwithastick

      Hi Littlemuscle! I just want you to know that I really enjoy reading your articles. You are a talented writer who obviously speaks from the heart.

      I know you'll understand when I say my sincerest wish is that we never have to read another article on this topic by you or anyone else again.

      Have a great day and my best wishes to both you and your girlfriend!

      • 2 votes
      Reply#10 - Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:31 PM EST
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